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Set Aside Some Time podcast is a creation of The National Medicare Secondary Payer Network (MSPN), the leading source for education on MSP compliance. This podcast series will provide the most up-to-date and accurate information to anyone directly or tangentially involved in MSP matters. Interviews feature leading experts in MSP compliance and in fields touched by MSP matters. In addition to publicly available podcasts, some sessions will feature a bonus episode, taking a deeper dive into the subject matter. These bonus episodes are only available to MSPN members.
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PodcastsEpisode 49: There's No Place Like MSPN: Looking Behind the Curtain at the 2025 Annual Conference Join Bridget Smith (IMPAXX) as she chats with MSPN Annual Conference Co-Chairs Michelle Allan (Allan Koba Compliance Solutions) and Amy Bilton (Nyhan, Bambrick, Kinzie and Lowry) about what to expect at this year's conference, themed "There's No Place Like MSPN," where you will want to bring your sparkly red shoes! Episode 48: Understanding WCMSAs and TPOC Reporting (May 28, 2025) Join Amy Bilton, Esq. (Nyhan, Bambrick, Kinzie and Lowry), Suzanne Jordan (Broadspire) and our host, Bridget Smith (IMPAXX) for an informative conversation on the new WCMSA Section 111 TPOC reporting requirements. As of April 4, 2025, CMS requires the reporting of Workers’ Compensation Medicare Set-Aside information when reporting Total Payment Obligation to Claimant (TPOC). We will review the history of how these requirements came to be; what the reporting requirement are; unanswered questions and reporting issues; and what you can do to meet these requirements going forward. Episode 47: Ch-Ch-Changes! (January 28, 2025) 2024 was a year of change in the MSP landscape. Much of the change enacted in 2024 is now coming into play in 2025. Join host Tim Mercer of Nyhan, Bambrick, Kinzie and Lowry as he discusses the impact these changes could have on our workflow in 2025 and beyond with Barrye Miyagi of Taylor Porter and Brendon De Souza of Sanderson Firm. Episode 46: Revisiting Liability and the MSP (December 16, 2024)
Aaron Winnell, Jason Creel and Steve Shaw join host Jennifer Shymanski to discuss the current state of Medicare Secondary Compliance on liability cases. The group examines some recent comments from CMS on liability future allocations, discusses the conditional payment process on liability matters and offers insight into how their clients are working through MSP issues. Episode 45: 2024 Annual Conference Review (November 19, 2024) Join Tim Mercer as he discusses the 2024 Annual Conference highlights with Amy Bilton, Vice President, Nyhan Bambrick Kinzie Lowry, and MSPN Past President Conference Committee Co-Chair, and Amber Worman, MSP Optimization Manager, Walmart Claims Services, and MSPN Treasurer. They will review some of the biggest take-aways, benefits of attending either in person or virtually, and a sneak peak at some topics for 2025! Episode 44: Preview of 2024 Annual Educational Conference (August 30, 2024) Join host Bridget Smith of IMPAXX as she chats with Conference Planning Committee Co-Chairs Michelle Allan and Amy Bilton about what you can expect at MSPN's 2024 Annual Educational Conference on September 25-27, 2024, in Baltimore, Maryland. Episode 43: Part 1 of 2: The Interplay of State-Specific Laws & Medicare Set-Asides (April 23, 2024) This episode continues to build on the fact pattern introduced at the outset of this year’s podcast series. Join host Annie Davidson and guest Sid Wong as they address some key state law provisions around the country and their impact on how parties can use them when settling cases using Medicare Set-Asides. Episode 42: Is it really connected? (March 21, 2024) Join host Rasa Fumagalli, Bridget Smith and Annie Davidson as they address the Medicare Set-Aside issues that come up in cases involving pre-existing conditions. The discussion also focuses on the best ways to address the various causation issues in the MSP case study. Episode 41: Civil Money Penalties Are Here! (February 20, 2024) Episode 40: Kicking off 2024 with an MSP Case Study (January 23, 2024) MSPN Podcast Committee Co-Chairs Bridget Smith and Jennifer Shymanski are joined by Julie Garrison, Partner at Nyhan, Bambrick, Kinzie and Lowry to kick off 2024. Bridget, Julie and Jennifer begin our year-long discussion of MSP topics through the lens of a case study. They introduce the fact pattern and begin with a conversation on MSP issue identification and appropriate time and type of referrals. Episode 39:Showtime in Review (December 12, 2023) Join us for MSPN’s December podcast featuring Jodi Taylor and Tim Mercer, with host Rasa Fumagalli, as they share their experiences at the MSNPN Annual Educational Conference. Was it worth the two day time investment? Episode 38: It's Almost Showtime! (November 3, 2023) Join host Jennifer Shymanski and guests Michelle Allan and Amy Bilton of the Annual Conference Committee for some behind-the-scenes sneak peeks, what to expect next week, and more! Episode 37: MSP Updates (October 10, 2023) Join host Bridget Smith with her guests Michelle Allan and Ciara Koba as they discuss some highlights and happenings in the MP industry. From the new notice on Section 111 Civil Monetary Penalties to National Compensation Conference happenings and what to look forward to in November, this fall pod has some pumpkin and spice for everyone. Episode 36: Allocator Tricks of the Trade (September 12, 2023) Join host Rasa Fumagalli in the latest MSPN podcast as she discusses “ Allocator Tricks of the Trade” with Julie Garrison and Brendon De Souza. Hear how these experts handle CMS submission challenges. Episode 35: Everything ORM (August 8, 2023) Join our host Bridget Smith with special guests Beth Hostetler and Frank Fairchok as we review updates on the Unsolicited Response File, a Wishlist for expanding ORM Termination and how to get ready for potential Civil Monetary Penalties. Episode 34: Living with the PAID Act (July 17, 2023) The PAID Act went into effect in December 2021. Bridget Smith and Jennifer Shymanski join host Rasa Fumagalli to discuss the impact of the implementation and offer some best practices. Episode 33: Settlement Talk: Insights from AASC (June 13, 2023) In this episode of Set Aside Some Time, we dive into the world of settlement consulting with leadership from the industry’s newest trade association, the American Association of Settlement Consultants (AASC). We are joined by Joanna Wynes, AASC President-Elect, and Jennifer Wieroniey, AASC Executive Director. Discover how AASC was founded to give a voice to settlement consultants in Washington, D.C., and foster a collaborative community. Learn about their recent efforts, including securing a Congressional request for a government-funded study on settlement dissipation rates, advocating for important legislation for sexual abuse settlements, and the latest developments in attorney fee structures. Join us for insightful discussions and learn why it’s critical that members of AASC and MSPN work together on settlement issues. Episode 32: Diving Deep Into Liability MSP Issues (May 12, 2023) Join Jennifer Shymanski, Barrye Miyagi and Rasa Fumagalli for this month’s podcast that takes a deep dive into some of the MSP compliance issues faced in two specific case studies. Our experienced panelists address best practices for a seamless settlement. Episode 31: Section 111: Get the Scoop on the Latest Updates (April 13, 2023) Join our host Bridget Smith as she discusses all things Section 111 with our guest Ciara Koba. Hot topics including the delay in Civil Monetary Penalties; what to do now to improve your Section 111 Reporting process and avoid potential penalties; and a discussion of the Unsolicited Response File are all on the agenda. Episode 30: Be a Part of Who We Are and What We Do: 2023 Presidential Interview (March 21, 2023) What can you expect from MSPN this year? Join Jennifer Shymanski of IMPAXX as she interviews MSPN President John Kane of Ametros to discuss the direction for MSPN in 2023. Episode 29: Case Law Update (February 7, 2023) Tune in to our February 2023 episode to hear Annie Davidson of ExamWorks Compliance Solutions chat with Shannon Metcalf of Hedrick Gardner Kincheloe & Garofalo, LLP on case law. Episode 28: 2022 Recap (January 3, 2023) Is it 2023 already? Join Rasa Fumagalli, Bridget Smith, and Jennifer Shymanski as they discuss MSA highlights of 2022. Episode 27: Creative Administration of MSA (December 6, 2022) Tune in to this month's episode to hear Rasa Fumagalli of Synergy Settlement Services chat with Shawn Deane of Ametros and Aaron Winnell of Medivest about MSA administration issues that may have required some “out-of-the-box” thinking. Episode 26: How to Handle Clients on Medicare and Medicaid (November 1, 2022) Tune in to this month's episode to hear Rachel Maldonado of Gordon & Rees chat with Jason Lazarus of Synergy Settlement Services and Will Lindahl of Community & Professional Training (CPT) Institute about how to handle clients on Medicare and Medicaid. Episode 25: 2022 Annual Educational Conference Highlights (October 27, 2022) Please join Christi Allison, Brian Cowan, Mark Heberling, Rachel Maldonado, Dena Ramsey, and Jennifer Shymanski for highlights of the 22 annual conference sessions. Yes - 22 sessions in one hour! So, whether you were able to attend virtually, in person, or had to miss this year, this podcast will impart the royal flush of the conference. Guests will provide their top 3 take-a-ways from each session, and listeners will walk away with key highlights to immediately implement into their practices. Episode 24: 2022 Annual Educational Conference Overview (August 2, 2022) Join host Bridget Smith of IMPAXX as she chats with Conference Planning Committee Co-Chairs Michelle Allan and Amy Bilton about what you can expect at MSPN's 2022 Annual Educational Conference on September 21-23, 2022, in Baltimore, Maryland. Episode 23: Citations for Conditional Payment Appeals (July 5, 2022) Tune in to this month's episode to hear Annie Davidson of ExamWorks Compliance Solutions sit down with Patrick Czuprynski of IMPAXX and William Delaney of Nyhan Bambrick Kinzie & Lowry to discuss helpful citations for conditional payment appeals. Episode 22: How to counsel clients relative to PAID Act (June 7, 2022) Curious about how to counsel clients relative to PAID Act? Join Rasa Fumagalli of Synergy Settlement Solutions and Michelle Allan of Allan Koba Compliance Solutions as they chat with Impaxx's Bridget Smith about best practices. Episode 21: Section 111 Changes: Past, Present and Future (May 3, 2022) The Section 111 landscape is rapidly changing, and we are facing many new developments. Join host Timothy Mercer of Nyhan, Bambrick, Kinzie & Lowry, with Ciara Koba of Allan Koba Compliance Solutions and Amber Worman of MMIA as they discuss changes that have been implemented, items in the pipeline, and future wish list items. Episode 20: The Latest on the WCMSA Reference Guide, Section 4.3 (April 5, 2022) The National MSP Network’s board member Annie M. Davidson hosts Marty Cassavoy from ExamWorks Compliance Solutions and John Kane from Ametros as they break down the original Section 4.3 of the WCMSA Reference Guide and what transpired at / after the most recent CMS Town Hall. You don't want to miss this! Episode 19: Analyzing the Allocation (March 15, 2022) There is more than one way to allocate for post settlement injury related care. Rasa Fumagalli and Bridget Smith join host Jennifer Shymanski to discuss the various considerations that impact future treatment projections in an allocation. Episode 18: MSPN 2022 Objectives (March 1, 2022) Join host and Board Treasurer Amber Worman for an introduction of the 2022 MSPN Executive Committee members, Steven Miller, President, Michelle Allan, Secretary, and Dan Anders, Immediate Past President to review objectives for the exciting year ahead. Episode 17: Settlement Strategies with Challenging MSAs (February 15, 2022) Host Bridget Smith talks with Greg Gitter, President of Legacy Claims, about the challenges of working with some MSAs that present unique problems, and offers strategies to process. Episode 16: Overview of the Social Security Disability Application Process and Settlement Considerations (February 1, 2022) Individuals that are receiving Social Security Disability benefits become eligible for Medicare benefits after a waiting period of 24 months from the initiation of SSD benefit payments. There is also an additional five month delay before the Medicare
coverage kicks in. Join Ann Sandstrom and Annemarie Pantazis as they discuss the Social Security Disability application process and special settlement considerations with host Rasa Fumagalli. Episode 15: Hitting the MARC (January 18, 2022) Join host Bridget Smith and podcast guest, Annie Davidson, as they discuss the Medicare Advocacy Recovery Coalition (MARC); MSP Network’s membership in MARC; and the critical Medicare compliance issues MARC will be addressing with CMS in 2022. Episode 14: MSPN 2021 - A Year in Review (January 4, 2022)
Join our host Amber Worman as she chats with Dan Anders, 2021 MSPN President and John Kane, 2021 MSPN Treasurer, looking back over MSPN's successes of 2021. Episode 13: Out of the Ordinary - Ending the Year with Unique MSP Issues (December 21, 2021)
Join our podcast hosts Jennifer Shymanski, Rasa Fumagalli and Bridget Smith as they wrap up the year with an assortment of unique MSP compliance issues and scenarios. Episode 12: We WISH You a Happy Holiday: MSPN Wishlist Items and More (December 7, 2021) MSP is ever-changing and faces new challenges and new developments over time. Join host Marina Cobb of Brady, Connolly & Masuda, P.C., with Ciara Koba of Allan Koba Compliance Solutions and Amber Worman of MMIA, as they discuss the top items on their wishlist to better the MSP practice. Episode 11: Opioids and MSAs - Oh My (November 23, 2021) Part D drugs are often cost drivers in Medicare Set-Asides. And, opioids are among the most prescribed of those large cost drivers. Defense attorney Julie Garrison joins host Jennifer Shymanski to discuss opioids in MSAs with MSPN Vice President and PharmD Steve Miller. Episode 10: The Data and Development Committee - Bringing the MSP Industry Together (November 9, 2021) Ever wonder how the MSPN stays on top of the latest trends in the MSA industry, and how it assimilates the volume of information in order to help its members? Join host Ann Sandstrom and her guest, Sandra Mackler as they discuss these topics and
learn more! A bonus episode available to members with a deeper dive! Episode 9: The ABCs of ICDs (October 26, 2021) Join host Bridget Smith and her guests, Kate Lewis, Steve Shaw and Jeremy Farquhar, as they discuss the impact ICD coding has on all areas of Medicare compliance; the challenges of correct coding; and best practices and tips for primary payers, claimant’s/plaintiff’s and their counsel. Episode 8: MSPN & NSSTA - Structuring a Partnership (October 12, 2021) MSPN President Dan Anders speaks with Eric Vaughn, Executive Director, and Michael Goodman, President, of the National Structured Settlements Trade Association (NSSTA), to discuss the missions and objectives of our respective groups and how our commonalities can be the foundation for a working partnership. Hosted by Jennifer Shymanski, this episode forecasts how the two organizations plan to collaborate and how both MSPN and NSSTA members can become involved in this alliance. Episode 7: Who Should You Turn to for Medicare Secondary Payer Compliance Advice? (September 28, 2021) Medicare Secondary Payer (MSP) compliance services are offered by a variety of professionals that may include attorneys, settlement consultants and nurse case managers. Amy Bilton, Annie Davidson and Christine Melancon join host Rasa Fumagalli to discuss some of the similarities and differences in the way that various MSP professionals may assess cases. Episode 6: The PAID Act: Considerations and Practicalities (September 14, 2021) This week, Amber Worman sets aside some time with Dan Anders, MSPN Board President, about the many benefits of joining the MSP Network. MSPN Board Members Amy Bilton and Michelle Allan share exciting news about the upcoming MSPN Annual Conference September 29th & 30th, 2021. Episode 5: The PAID Act: Considerations and Practicalities (August 31, 2021) Join Heather Schwartz Sanderson and David Farber with host Bridget Smith for an in-depth analysis of the practical application of the PAID Act and the impact it could have on primary payers and claimants/plaintiffs going forward. Episode 4: Annuities: Opportunities & Ambiguities (August 17, 2021) Structured Settlement Annuities offer that rare win-win situation for both sides in a settlement. Jason Lazarus and Jeff Livingston will join host Jennifer Shymanski to discuss the opportunities that utilizing structured settlements bring to both claimant/plaintiffs and defendants and what components the parties should focus on when choosing to use these annuities. The group will also discuss the recent change to the WCMSA Reference Guide regarding seed amount calculations and how that may impact the use of these annuities in settlement. Episode 3: Liability MSAs – Waiting for the Other Shoe to Drop (August 3, 2021) While the process for Work Comp MSAs is fully dressed, there is not much of an outfit for the liability side. Steve Shaw and Robert Sagrillo will join host Rasa Fumagalli to discuss the history of MSP and liability settlements. They will discuss the various ways that Plaintiffs and Defendants view their compliance obligations and prognosticate on when that other shoe - proposed liability regulations from CMS – may drop.
A bonus episode available to members with a deeper dive! Episode 2: Conditional Payment Containment (July 20, 2021) Conditional Payment resolution can be a long, confusing and sometimes frustrating process. Patrick Czuprynski and Michael Bergonzi will join host Sandi Walthall to discuss the basics of the process and provide insight into some of the most common pitfalls you will want to avoid. A bonus episode available to members with a deeper dive! Episode 1: There Can Be MIRacles: Understanding Section 111 Reporting (July 6, 2021) |
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